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kayes

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February 20, 2009 2:18am

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February 20, 2009 2:57am

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Orange

Registered: February 2009
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February 20, 2009 3:17am

The jambu air are beautiful. Great shot. Thanks. Good for wall papar.


The jackfruits craze has just started in the Klang Valley. RM5.00 per 3 packets. Everyday I spend RM2.00 just for this fruit.


The pineapples are just nice for pineapple tarts. Yummy.....


The bananas are too ripe and they will turn soft anytime; maybe the monkeys will love them.


As for the rambutans; If we peel them; keep in a Tupperware and let them chilled in the fridge. No other desserts can beat this esp. during hot humid days like now.


Put whip-cream into those strawberries....... They can be my breakfast; lunch and dinner. Nah!
Ken Chan

Registered: July 2008
Location: Chicago. IL, USA
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February 20, 2009 3:56am

Kayes, the yellow/orange colored, round fruits look new to me. What are those? The luscious, wax-like jambu air look so inviting. Makes me feel like whipping up some 'haeko' (shrimp paste) to start a rojak party. I can get them from Vietnamese grocery shops but they are rather pricey. As always, thanks for those lovely shots.
Jim Joyce

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 432
February 20, 2009 4:36pm

Kayes,I remember eating some fruit once,on the road from Taiping to Ipoh,I mention the geographic location because they may only be indigenous to that locale,the fruit was about the size of a Cumquat,with a yellowish speckled skin and the flesh was the colour of chocolate and very sweet.My Wife told me the name of the fruit,but I have forgotten and I have to admit I have not seen such a fruit since.I have asked a number of my Malaysian friends and family but nobody seems to know such fruit.I was wondering if your goodself or anyone knows of such a fruit? I am very curious and it has bugged me for years
Orange

Registered: February 2009
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February 20, 2009 7:42pm

Hi Ken,


Sometimes when we cannot get hold of the "Har Koh", we dip the Jambu Air into a self-made sauce (by mixing Hak Yau, sliced chillies and some sugar). To me, this sauce is as good as Har Koh. In fact, we can dip any fruits (mangoes; star fruits, "Sar Kok", pineapples and any other local fruits) into this Hak Yau sauce. Try it and hope you will like this self-made sauce.
Orange

Registered: February 2009
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February 20, 2009 7:46pm

Hi Jim,


The fruit you are referring to could it be "Ciku". The flesh is chocolate in colour and the seeds are hard and the colour is shinning black. Hope my guess is right!
Ken Chan

Registered: July 2008
Location: Chicago. IL, USA
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February 21, 2009 12:44am

Hi Orange,
Thanks for the suggestion. Malaysia's dark soy sauce (Hak Yau) is very yummy and those that are manufactured in the KL region are especially famous. That's why the Hokkien Char (Tai Look Meen) sold in KL & PJ are so delicious. I am sure Hak Yau, when properly mixed, can be a good rojak dip. Since I can easily buy genuine 'haeko' from Malaysia, I usually use the real thing when making rojak on weekends.
Jim Joyce

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February 21, 2009 5:27pm

Cheers Orange,that's it.you don't know how that has been nagging at my brain for a long time. for the life of me I could not remember the name
Orange

Registered: February 2009
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February 21, 2009 6:25pm

Hi Ken,


The "Hak Yau" that "Tai Chow" used are not the same as those we used at home. Those we normally used are more saltish and the "Tai Chow" use big amount of "Hak Yau" for each serving of "Tai Look Meen". It can't be the same Black sauce. I have seen sauce suppliers sending those sauce in big plastic containers to those "Tai Chow".


Ipoh's "Pak Yau" (brands like AAA; Bo Bo and one brand from Bidor with Fairy as their Logo but I am not sure about the name) are being sold in Tesco. In fact, Tesco sell many Malaysian products. Before we have those hypermarkets; I have a relative used to buy dozens and dozens of "Pak Yau"; "Hak Yau"; Ipoh Coffee and even Chopping Board from Ipoh whenever she balik kampung. We used to tease and ask her: "What is the name of your Kedai Runcit?" Smile
Orange

Registered: February 2009
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February 28, 2009 3:32am

The appearance of the Jambu Batu shown above look somehow similar to those Limau Purut. Wonder if these fruits taste good. Very often we are told: Never judge a book by its cover; Looks can be deceiving; It's what inside that counts. But still prefer the other variety of the Jambu Batu where the fruits are bigger and the 'complexion' is without pimples and more 'Lang Chai'. Smile Just cut the Jambu Batu, remove the seeds and sprinkle some 'assam boi' powder - Wahlau eh! It's juicilicious!!
Ken Chan

Registered: July 2008
Location: Chicago. IL, USA
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February 28, 2009 7:53am

Hi Orange,
I think you are right, the 'hak yau' used for home-cooking is more salty and those for frying noodles tend to be sweeter. Over here, there are brands from every Asian country but I still use the orchid brand 'pak yau' from Ipoh. As for 'hak yau', the sweet, dark soy sauce from Indonesia is very sedap. In a way, we are fortunate to have access to many varieties of Malaysian cooking ingredients even though we are half a world away from home. For a quick fix, we masak curry ayam, curry laksa and Penang Har Meen with Delima brand products. That's the next best thing when we don't feel like driving to a Malaysian restaurant.
Orange

Registered: February 2009
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March 1, 2009 12:18am

We have few Malaysian brands of those sweet 'hak yau'. Pour some into the fried eggs and sprinkle with some sliced chillies and Bombay onions and it is a good side dish. But it is my main dish when I am 'trapped' at home! Smile
Retired Falcon

Registered: August 2008
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March 2, 2009 11:02pm

Back in the old days, there used to be a man selling 'Pak Yau' and Hak Yau' and he would go round on his tricycle and selling it to households. There were't any of those brands you guys mentioned back then. It was really good and you just give him a bottle to fill up. I wonder if any of the brands avaiable in the market use his secret recipe.
Orange

Registered: February 2009
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March 3, 2009 10:00pm

Hi Ken,


Those yellow and orange fruits are 'buah pinang' (betel nuts). In the old days, people eat 'buah pinang' laced with kapur and wrapped with 'daun sireh' (betel leaves).
Ken Chan

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March 5, 2009 6:47pm

Hi Orange,
Thank you for refreshing my memory. Yes, I do recall the buah pinang or betel nuts that were wrapped with kapur-laced daun sireh. and chewed in the mouth. Many of those who chew this nut habitually would spit some gooey red substance that looked really gross. As a child, I was petrified when I see such a sight because I thought the grown-ups were spitting blood.
Retired Falcon

Registered: August 2008
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March 5, 2009 10:29pm

Happy days are here again. I see lots of durians on sale and even the hypermarkets are selling it too (all prepacked). Just waiting to have it with pulut and santan. Good combination.
ACS77

Registered: September 2008
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March 5, 2009 10:33pm

Hi Ken,


These red gooey spit reminds me of stories my father used to tell us.
When he was still a child in China, he used to hear stories from people who came back from South East Asia and said that there were many black people who spits blood all over the places. They believe that this black people must be eating children !


ACS77
kayes

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March 6, 2009 12:52am

hi guys and gals, this is the proper way to chew that stuff Smile!


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Orange

Registered: February 2009
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March 6, 2009 3:15am

Imagine Fonzie and gang savouring our durians in Bukit Berapit, Perak. Nah!
Retired Falcon

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March 6, 2009 5:08am

Hi Kayes, I think we missed the pinang cutter. I think that would be an antique.
eddie

Registered: February 2009
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March 6, 2009 5:47pm

I prefer to choose durians fr scratch. I have kinda good nose for it. Small seeds, bitter, or sweet. I used to be able to locate them. Need to start practising again before I lose my nose for it.


In the late 90s I used to frequent orchards in Bidor/Tapah/Chenderiang/ areas for such fruits. Not the best locale for the king of fruits but one c an find some good fruits at times. One of the best one I tried was at the orchard after Senawang. The name escapes my mind now. That was in 1992.
Ken Chan

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Location: Chicago. IL, USA
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March 6, 2009 8:42pm

Hi Sam,
Thanks for sharing the story about people who 'eat' children. In those long gone days, kids were more gullible and they tend to believe every word that comes from an adult's mouth. My folks were from China too and one of the stories they heard about Malaysia was that people threw away their 'green bowls' after every meal. The green bowls were in fact the daun pisang (green banana leaves) that were used to wrap the food. After consuming the makanan, the banana leaves were discarded. Hence, the hard-to-believe tale about throwing away 'green bowls' was concocted.
ACS77

Registered: September 2008
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March 7, 2009 8:16am

Hi Ken,


I guess what are talking was the first cultural exchanges for our ancestors. Having lived all their lifes within one type of culture and suddenly being exposed to a totally different culture. They really prepared us for today.


As for durians, have you guys ever watch the program Bizarre Foods? The host Andrew Zimmern eats almost any bizarre things around the glode. Durian is one that defeated him : )


ACS77
Retired Falcon

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March 7, 2009 8:28am

Hi ACS77, yes I did watch that segment. He just couldn't take the durians. Tony Bourdain could and quite enjoyed it too. I just went to a hypermarket and the guy wanted me to buy the whole lot of five to six packets for 10 bucks as he was about to close up. Sadly I refused because I was in the beer mood tonight and didn't want to mix beer with durians.
ACS77

Registered: September 2008
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March 7, 2009 9:00am

Hi Joe,


Wise decision not to mix the 2 together. Where cn you get six durians for 10 bucks? What currencies are we talking about? Reminds of the old days when they bring truck loads od durians and offered it real cheap especially when its closing time or the fruits had been rained on.


ACS77
Ken Chan

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March 7, 2009 3:46pm

Joe, believe it or not, I can order durian, pulut and santan dessert in one of my favorite Thai restaurants. It is very good but some purists may insist on fresh durians rather than the frozen variety. Frozen durian sells for about US$1.00 per pound whereas the fresh fruits can go for US$5.50 per pound. The durian, pulut and santan dessert is also available in Thai grocery stores. It is imported from Thailand and is a very convenient snack because it is microwaveable. If durian is too pungent for the less adventurous, mango, pulut and santan dessert is equally delcious, and it is also available in many Thai restaurants and grocery shops.


Sam, I remember those late, rainy nights in Osborne Street where the durian stalls were saturated with rain water as well as fruits, and customers were few and far between. Price being a function of supply and demand, there was a free fall in durian prices and we use to scout around for great bargains under those conditions. Years later when I was working in Penang, this 'jualan murah/jatoh harga' situation also existed in MacAlister Road and we had a great time honing our bargaining skills.
eddie

Registered: February 2009
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March 7, 2009 3:55pm

ACS77


Sometimes at Jusco, during closing time you can get a bargain.


Real bargain is to visit someone's orchard. I used to be able to do it in Bidor when I was frequenting the place in the late 90s. Picking and eating in the farm gives it a fresh meaning. If you have the chance, try it. Picking durians is not as easy as it sounds; searching and walking the uneven sloppy terrain.
eddie

Registered: February 2009
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March 7, 2009 4:00pm

One advice about guava. Has anyone heard of children who dies eating guava? The problem is sometimes we pick them fr someone's tree (in the orchard) without permission, kids especially...curi curi la. The owners spray alot of pesticide on this fruit. You will never see a worm or maggot on this fruit is the orchard. If you grow themn at home, aiyoh, lots of worms ya. The farmers will not spray the fruits close to harvesting time so that the pesticide (read poison) in the fruit is "diluted", left the fruit so to speak. If you curi and makan, you die fr eating the fobidden fruit. If you eat of it you shall surely die....so always buy fr reputable shops/stalls
Jim Joyce

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March 7, 2009 5:36pm

Ken,what memories you re-kindled with your post re, Durian stalls in McAlister road.I remember them well with fondness
Retired Falcon

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March 7, 2009 8:36pm

Hi Eddie, talking about the forbidden fruit - see what happened when Eve offered the apple to Adam? Now we're stuck here LOL.
Retired Falcon

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March 7, 2009 8:45pm

Hi Ken, glad that you can have the durian, santan and pulut over there. The mango with pulut and santan is also one of my favourites too. Wherever I go, I will be on the lookout for desserts like these and the Ais Batu Campur (ABC). The Thai and Vietnamese version of ABC is nice too. Just love it.
eddie

Registered: February 2009
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March 7, 2009 9:54pm

Ya la, stuck here all because of Adam. But cant really blame him la. Imagine if he does not eat it, she will be nagging him to no end. Might as well eat it and die. Dont eat then how? Got to listen to her forever. Hokkien would say, kam buan see.
ACS77

Registered: September 2008
Posts: 218
March 7, 2009 11:20pm

Hi Eddie,


Our last trip back to Ipoh, some three years back, we bought some durians from Jusco. My wife actually likes it. My 4 years old son however, took a bite and said " That's more than enough" He likes Chiku and Rambutans instead : )


Hi Ken,


We found a pretty good Singapore restaurant in the Pleasanton, Bay Area. They do a very good "Singapore Laksa". Guess what, the chef is actually from Ipoh. So the next time you are in the Bay Area, let me know, maybe we can meet and I can belanja you at this restaurant.


ACS77


ACS77
Retired Falcon

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March 7, 2009 11:59pm

Hi Eddie, the least Adam could have done was to shove the apple into Eve's mouth to shut her up toget some peace and quiet hehe.
Orange

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March 8, 2009 12:06am

Battle of the sexes or what?? Smile
Orange

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March 8, 2009 12:48am

Mangosteen is the best fruit to eat after eating durian for that cooling effect. Another way is put iced cold water into the empty compartments (after we have eaten the durian flesh) of the inner shells of the durian to avoid getting heaty.


Always wonder why do people love durians so much? For the smell; taste or the mere guessing game - 'Is this durian good or otherwise when after opening the it?'


Whenever there is a durian party at home, it is always clashes with my appointment with my beautician or hair stylist. Talking about coincidences! Got to get ready a 'Plan B' for back-up just in case the durian party is after 9p.m. Smile!
Ken Chan

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March 8, 2009 9:58am

Sam,
Banyak terimah kasih for your offer to belanja. That gives me another reason to visit California, besides seeing my niece and her family in the Silicon Valley. I also have a nephew who teaches in the University of California, Davis, which is not too far away. I enjoy catching up with friends and relatives and of course, the food is an added bonus. There are no definite plans for a summer vacation yet because of my kid's schedule in school. We'll try to fit in something before the next school year starts in the fall. At this point in time, we are toying with the idea of an Alaskan cruise. Perhaps there are some good deals because market conditions in the travel industry is in the pits.
Orange

Registered: February 2009
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March 10, 2009 4:36pm

Durians are no doubt is the king of fruits. But "One Man's Meat is Another Man's Poison" - sorry for sounding so serious. Okay... let's make it a lighter tone: "Beauty Lies in the Eyes of the Beholders."


On the negative side, we have the song "Drop Dead Beautiful" by Six for Nine. Ha ha...
Jim Joyce

Registered: July 2008
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March 12, 2009 9:38pm

A hint from todays NST,don't pick your neighbours Ciku fruit if he is a RELA Member and has a Shotgun
Ken Chan

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March 12, 2009 10:45pm

Good advice, Jim! However, not everyone can resist the temptation because forbidden fruits are always sweeter, so they say. Some daredevils get the kick from living dangerously, but bear in mind that those who live by the sword would usually die by the sword.
Jim Joyce

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March 13, 2009 3:13am

Ken I found out a long time ago that not only is the pen mightier than the sword.it is also much easier to write with
Orange

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March 14, 2009 4:39am

There is a Chinese saying: "If we can have hair on our head, who wants to be bald?" On the other hand, "Roads Are Made by Men!"
Orange

Registered: February 2009
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March 17, 2009 5:35am

Hi Jim, still craving for those 'ciku' after what was reported in the papers. I think it makes the craving worst, right? Nah!
July 21, 2009 11:44pm

On fruits we in India have all fruits other than Durian and Rambutan here
On the last photo showing betel leaves
It is considered as an auspicious item along with betel nut compulsary item in every relegious occassion including visit to hindu temples and weddings
Betel nut is beaten to small pieces roasted with ghee (clarified butter)added with some nuts and presented in Packets Rashiklal is one trade name for
Betel nut, Leaves smeared with very small qty of Lime Calcium hydroxide is taken after tummy full feast for digestive purposes and resulting red color juice is swallowed
When roasted tobacco leaves are taken by certain persons they cannot swallow and spit out creating nastyness to the surroundings
I was told that in Burma this habbit exist
pl confirm if it does in malays and chinese too
July 23, 2009 1:32am

Dear Mr Kayes
I will add few more points to the luxiry of chewing pan
Instead of roasted betel nut powder some people slice the whole raw betel nut
It is called Pakku vetti in tamil meaning betel nut cutter
Also machine sliced or shrudded betel nut called seeval in tamil is also available
In north india they use one leaf with sweet paste, coconut shreads, sweets will be added and give as pan
each pan may be priced from Rs 2 to 200 ( 50 rs make one US dollar)They add tobacco called thambakku
In south india they take lot of leaves
Only when they take tobacco they spit as they cannot swallow
subbu
Bomoh

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July 23, 2009 1:45pm

Guaranteed mouth and throat cancer too from chewing betel.
nsubbu135
nsubbu135

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July 31, 2009 10:21am

Dear Mr Bomb
Chewing with tobacco will invite throat cancer as smoking
But confining to beatal leaves Aracca nut powder after food will add to digesting of food Alsowhen tobacco is not added spitting is totally avoided and roads walls are not reddened
nsubbu135
nsubbu135

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Location: Chennai
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August 4, 2009 1:41am

Rambutan is also not available in india
But a similar fruit caalled lechchi is available
Jack fruit is available here.This is of same family as Durian but does not have punjent odour and phospharus smell
It goes well with Honey
subbu
Jim Joyce

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August 6, 2009 6:06am

I have tried Betel Nut,Once,I am afraid it did nothing for me,except leave a bitter taste in my mouth,that was in Penang Street.I believe a known area for the product.Durian,on the other hand,is a Horse of a very different colour and flavour.Once accustomed to it,there is no such flavour.Believe me
Bomoh

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August 6, 2009 10:56am

"July 31, 2009 10:21am


Dear Mr Bomb"


Am I so explosive?
Bomoh

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August 6, 2009 11:00am

I'm a great durian lover too, especially of Penang durians originating in the Balik Pulau area.......... surely the best in the world.
I think it is also a misplaced stereotype that orang puteh find them offensive, some do but a lot don't. I actually introduced my Malaysian wife to the joys of durian and also Petai sambal. Good job we have 2 toilets in our house!
Retired Falcon

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Posts: 1,168
August 6, 2009 6:55pm

Haha Bomoh, you crack me up. There's a glut of durians now all over the country and they even had a 'Eat All You Can' thingy for RM7.90 at one othe rest areas along the highway. You can have a 'Blast' there with all the durians.
Bomoh

Registered: September 2008
Location: Mount Gambier, South Australia
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August 7, 2009 2:14am

That's good news indeed as I shall be in Penang/Kinta Valley area from 11 September on my way to a new life in South Australia. Maybe can meet up with a few of you, Kayes has my personal email address.
koko

Registered: November 2008
Location: australia
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August 8, 2009 7:15am

Bomoh
why do you need to introduce your "Malaysian wife to the joys of durian and also petai sambal"? I thought most MALAYSIAN would have acquired the taste of these 2 specialties...could it be typing error, er.....your wife is not Malaysian? Also, I read that you'll be having a 'new life in SOuth AUstralia'...migrating there?
Jim Joyce

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August 8, 2009 9:17pm

Retired Falcon. I also love Durian.But you must admit there is a limit to eating such a rich fruit? and besides I like a Beer also,after Durian it sort of limits your drinking
Retired Falcon

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August 9, 2009 2:30am

Jim, after having durian, its better to refrain from beer or liquor as have been advised by people.
nsubbu135
nsubbu135

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August 10, 2009 10:03am

Dear Bomoh
I am sorry for that carelessness on my part
Let us all pray that there be no bombs in any part of the world
and no explosiations
If you observe most of the terrorist organizations are started by party in power
to control the oppositions
But these organizations grow beyond control and starters themselves become victims
there is a saying in Tamil whose equivalent is " a snake charmer dies by snake bite
Regarding Betel leaves and nuts along with yellow bananas are auspicious items and are always a part in all south indian functions
Tobacco chewing along with betel nut and leaves is not good for health as it gives more chances of mouth cancer
Otherwise it is good for health provided in limit and is followed by good wash of mouth
subbu
Orange

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August 11, 2009 4:10am

Hi Koko,


I can safely say not all Malaysians love durians. Smile That doesn't make them less Malaysian. Smile! On the other hand, our office's tea lady who is very thrift and seldom spends unnecessary love durians very much. She is so thrift that when she washes vegetables, she washes all the vege. in a basin of water whereas we leave the tap on and wash them under running water. Smile She doesn't use washing machine to wash her clothes. So after every rinse, she keeps the water to flush the toilet. The water she uses for mopping and washing balcony is the rain water she collects whenever it rains. She never leaves the room light on if nobody is in the room. But when the durian season comes, she spends nothing less than RM100.00 just for durians. No kidding! A true durian lover.
koko

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August 11, 2009 6:08am

I don't mean to imply that people who don't fancy eating durians/sambal petai are less Malaysians. I realise that we have different tastes in food and some people don't like durians......Just thought it might be a typing error (that's all).
About the thrifty lady who wouldn't mind spending $$$ on durians, well, guess she saved all that money to indulge in the 'joys' of her life. And, I think some people believe that you shouldn't stinge on food("sik-yeh mo harn")
Bomoh

Registered: September 2008
Location: Mount Gambier, South Australia
Posts: 98
August 20, 2009 6:17am

Hi there Koko, Orange, retired Falcon, Jim, I've been out of computer range the last few days as been on holiday to Holland,Germany and Denmark. My wife is definately a malaysian of Chinese Teo Chu origin and never really liked durian or petai sambal before I persuaded her. She likes it now and we can even buy it in central UK now although I think it is Thai origin and tends to be bigger but less tasty. We leave UK permanently on 5th Septmeber heading for a new life in Mount Gambier South Australia. On the way we are stopping off in Spore, HK, BKK and of course penang where we will be from 11th September. If anyone wants to contact me for a beer and chat whilst I'm there in penang then Kayes knows my email address. I'm sure he would pass your message onto me.
Personally I like a meal of sambal petai followed by durian washed down with Carlsberg beer, it gives the intestines a good work out!
Bomoh

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Location: Mount Gambier, South Australia
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August 20, 2009 6:21am

Just to add I'm going to spend a few days wondering around the Kinta valley with the book Kinta Valley: Pioneering Malaysia's Modern Development Khoo Salma Nasution & Abdur-Razzaq Lubis. I used to live in Ipoh in 1981-3 but never spent the time to look properly. This time I'm going to concentrate.
Orange

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Posts: 3,163
August 20, 2009 7:58am

Hi Bomoh,


Aha.... "durian washed down with Carlsberg"; I am very sure your wife won't let you do that!
ACS77

Registered: September 2008
Posts: 218
August 20, 2009 8:02am

Hi Bomoh,


I was living in London between 81-83' while you were in Ipoh ! Best wishes for your new life in Down Under.


ACS77
koko

Registered: November 2008
Location: australia
Posts: 25
August 20, 2009 7:22pm

Bomoh
why do you choose to reside in Mt Gambier? Is it job transfer? I live in Adelaide....maybe might meet you one day? Kayes has my email add: Adelaide is quiet- almost comparable to Ipoh.Have a safe journey to AUstralia and best wishes to your family.
Bomoh

Registered: September 2008
Location: Mount Gambier, South Australia
Posts: 98
August 21, 2009 9:11am

I chose Mt Gambier because I have friends there and like the climate, not too hot or too cold, and plenty of water. Rural lifestyle suits me and I like to grow vegetable. nearby is Port macDonald............. home of the rock lobster fleet!!!
I don't work as I retired from Malaysia aged 54 in 2006. However........ I think Perth has some advantages as it is nearest to Malaysia/Singapore. Sure we will be in Adelaide regularly to get the things that inevitably one cannot get in Mt Gamb.
nsubbu135
nsubbu135

Registered: July 2009
Location: Chennai
Posts: 17
August 21, 2009 11:05am

Chikku is available in plenty in India
It is also called sappootta
It is similar to Kiwi fruit in appearance But either spherical or ellipzoid in shape
The skin is brownish leather color
eddie

Registered: February 2009
Posts: 85
August 22, 2009 9:24pm

It is true, durian washed down with Carls. I have tried that many times. Still alive and kicking. It is not the alcohol that kills. At least thatis what i have been informed. Itis "heat plus more heat". Meaning if you take durian, it is "heaty" and if youtake brandy, that is heaty...ini macam sure to konk off. However, beer is "cooling". Dont over drink though. I have only had durian with no more than 4 glasses of Carls. That way, no overheating andI managed to eat practically everyday during the season.
Jim Joyce

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 432
August 22, 2009 10:20pm

G,Day eddie.I have another Home Grown recipe handed down to me by years in the Navy.If you drink rum you will Never have worms.To prove this go into your garden,dig up a worm and place it in a glass of rum,see what it does to the worm.Ergo,drink rum and you will never have worms.
Orange

Registered: February 2009
Posts: 3,163
August 23, 2009 2:09am

Ha ha Jim, it works well only with that particular worm I presume!! Smile!
Bomoh

Registered: September 2008
Location: Mount Gambier, South Australia
Posts: 98
August 23, 2009 9:51am

Yes often I had durian and alcohol and still alive lah. However both are heaty and too much would not be good. But then again there was a UK king that died of a surfeit of peaches. I almost died a few years ago down Jalan Yang Karlsom but that's another story that cannot be told here.
Jim Joyce

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 432
August 23, 2009 12:57pm

G'Day Orange,what particular Worm? enough rum,who cares and the Worm dies happy.I have another recipe for keeping Tigers at bay,but thats another story.
eddie

Registered: February 2009
Posts: 85
August 23, 2009 8:27pm

G'day to you Jim


Rum and worms, ha ha ha. Yes, alcohol will kill worms so will whiskey right. But for the navy, it has to be rum of course. Just ask Capt Jack Sparrow.....rum it shall be sailor and we will be goose-winging all the way.
Jim Joyce

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 432
August 23, 2009 11:45pm

eddie,I actually served with a Bloke by the name of Jack Tarr,a true name not a nickname.In Butterworth I served with a Doctor called Killer,a Matron called Bones,a Medic called Feint,a Dog Handler Called Bassett and an Armourer called Rocket.Never found a Clerk called Pen though
Retired Falcon

Registered: August 2008
Posts: 1,168
August 24, 2009 4:57am

Yo Ho Ho and a bottle of Rum! Capt. Jack Sparrow sure had lots of it.
Love to drink it with coke but it hits you slowly.
Orange

Registered: February 2009
Posts: 3,163
August 24, 2009 6:06am

Hello Jim, to keep Tiger or Thai Girl at bay?! Smile!
Bomoh

Registered: September 2008
Location: Mount Gambier, South Australia
Posts: 98
August 24, 2009 5:14pm

There was a dentist in Ipoh called Dr Phang!
Orange

Registered: February 2009
Posts: 3,163
August 25, 2009 9:44am

In Perak, we have people living in Dinding (wall); Lumut (moss) and Parit (drain). Smile
Jim Joyce

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 432
August 27, 2009 4:48pm

An empty wallet keeps one at bay,Orange
Jim Joyce

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 432
August 28, 2009 3:44am

Actually Orange,in the North-East of England(County Durham)there are people who live in a place called Pity Me,I know I have been there.Now this is a product of the English,(Bastardising,and thats not offensive)another Language,the language being old Norman from "Petite Mere" or Small Lake.They have also taken leave of"Malay" in that a Tea Caddy was derived from the old Malay Measure of "Katy",about what it takes to fill a"Caddy"a "Mugger" was brought back,by British Soldiery,from India,a small Crocodile who lays in wait for his Prey.This is knowledge I gained as a Child.Long before the Internet
Jim Joyce

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 432
August 28, 2009 10:13am

Hi Orange,are you originally from Perak? I have in-laws who live in Ayer Tawar,which is not far from Dinding and Lumut.The problem is you have a lot of names in Malaysia that repeat themselves and,believe it or not,my Wife pointed this out to me,we have a lot of place names here in Australia that sound Malay.Mostly in the Bush
Orange

Registered: February 2009
Posts: 3,163
August 28, 2009 3:13pm

Money can't buy love, Jim. One can't get services without money!! Smile
Orange

Registered: February 2009
Posts: 3,163
August 28, 2009 3:22pm

Jim, I was born in Ipoh and left for KL after Form Five. Smile


You are right for saying there are many places in Malaysia having the same names. Names like: Ampang; Ayer Itam (various spellings); Happy Garden; Lucky Garden; Sunway....... You are indeed very well versed with Malaysia. Jim boleh!! Thumbs Up!
Orange

Registered: February 2009
Posts: 3,163
August 29, 2009 7:54am

Hi Jim,


For places in Malaysia having the same names; here are two more: Pasir Putih in Ipoh and Pasir Putih in Kelantan. Pengkalan in Ipoh and Pengkalan in KL. Smile
Jim Joyce

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 432
August 30, 2009 10:54pm

I also note,Orange,Batu Gajah,one would hope you lived closer to the head end than the tail end.And just how many places are called AWAS or SIMPANG EMPAT,IKUT KIRI not to mention the ever prevelant BERHENTI.This confuses us Orang Puteh,or Gweilloiw.Another thing see,we don't even know who we are(Or even how to spell it)but I still enjoy the experience.
Jim Joyce

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 432
August 30, 2009 11:41pm

Saya Jenaka Orange.??
Orange

Registered: February 2009
Posts: 3,163
August 31, 2009 8:48am

Jim memang pandai berjenaka. Seronok berbual dengan Jim. Smile


Orang Putih; Kwei Lo or Mat Salleh are terms of endearment, Jim.
Jim Joyce

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 432
August 31, 2009 12:28pm

Now Mat Salleh is a term that was applied to my son,at the Esplanade in Pinang when he decided he wished to eat Pork,My Son looks Malay,but the very nice Chinese Lady,believing him to be Malay,warned him that it was "Haram" my son does not speak any language,other than English and she refused to serve him until I came to the stall.Then she said Ayoh Mat Salleh.That still makes me laugh
Orange

Registered: February 2009
Posts: 3,163
August 31, 2009 10:12pm

Cerita yang lucu, Jim. Bagus! Thumbs Up!
Orange

Registered: February 2009
Posts: 3,163
August 29, 2010 9:29am

Someone sent Langsat and Rambutan to our house when we were not in. We asked our part-time maid who sent those fruits. "Don't know." What car? "Don't know." While still thinking and guessing who sent those fruits to us, half of the fruits are already gone .....


Now, what if those fruits are not for us ..... ?? Nah!
Jim Joyce

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 432
August 29, 2010 5:18pm

Orange,Simple blame a band of roving monkeys!...He who smiles when things go wrong.
Has found someone else to blame it on...Ancient Civil Service Saying
Orange

Registered: February 2009
Posts: 3,163
August 29, 2010 11:25pm

Ha ha Jim, how come it never came across our mind? Yes, it could be MONYIT!!


The MONYIT are very 'pandai' because they know what we like and what we don't. They also know when we are in and when we are not. Smile


But then again, it could be our house is their hoarding place for their loots. He he he. That makes us what? Partners in crime?! Smile


Whatever it is, those MONYIT have good taste!! All those fruits were direct from the orchard because fresh leaves and stalks were still intact. Thing to do now is to think of ways to handle those MONYIT when they return for their loots because all the fresh fruits 'sudah habis'!! Ka ka ka
kayes

Registered: July 2008
Location: Penang Malaysia
Posts: 4,806
May 15, 2014 1:19am

Is anyone in contact with Jim Joyce? I sent him three emails over the past few months and they all bounced.
Ken Chan

Registered: July 2008
Location: Chicago. IL, USA
Posts: 1,170
May 15, 2014 4:41pm

Have not been in direct contact with Jim Joyce but recently, I was pleasantly surprised to see his postings in another blog. Very glad that he is becoming active again. It's always a pleasure to read his recollections of the days he spent in Ipoh & Penang.
kayes

Registered: July 2008
Location: Penang Malaysia
Posts: 4,806
May 15, 2014 5:36pm

Thanks Ken. When I was away in Hong Kong for my eye surgeries a few months ago, I just did not have the time (or ability) to check on my websites regularly. On and off there was a troll who posted offensive messages at Ipoh Talk and Penang Talk but they were promptly removed by my son, who helped me to "supervise" IT, PT and TT. I wonder whether this has anything to do with JJ's absence.
kayes

Registered: July 2008
Location: Penang Malaysia
Posts: 4,806
May 21, 2014 5:13pm

Anyone eaten this lately? During our last trip to Ipoh, we bought some from Tanjung Tualang.


http://penangnewspaper.com/pics8/waterlily.jpg
Orange

Registered: February 2009
Posts: 3,163
May 22, 2014 1:11am

'Lin Pung'? Not sure about the actual name for this fruit but the seeds are called 'Lin Chi'. Used to eat that a lot when staying in Batu Gajah during weekends and school holidays. Can get abundance of it from mining towns like Tronoh, Tg. Tualang and Batu Gajah. It's hard to come by nowadays as harvesting them is difficult due to labour shortage. Ethan is indeed very lucky gets to see this fruit - not many kids today know about this fruit.



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